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Wednesday, August 14, 2019

DID YOU KNOW?? YOU BAD, YOU BAD!!!!!


On Monday, August 12, the Town Board had a very contentious and lonnnnng meeting which did not end until well after midnight!





The first thing that I will report is the status of the Commercial/Industrial "work group."
It is no longer in existence.



"Work group" members Mark Ceminsky, Butch Hansen and Al Novacek addressed the Board about the more recent Open House which I reported on in the "Red Dots" post.

We heard things like: 

The attendees were "disrespectful."

It was "disgraceful."

The attendees were "intimidating" to others present who were in favor of C/I to the point that those in favor were "afraid" to put up their green dots, apparently for fear of negative reaction from others in attendance.

No one came to listen. They were not open-minded. They came to shut this down.

People said they didn't want "pole barns," but none of our posters showed pole barns! (They still don't get that, without sewer and water, pole barns, outside storage and truck depots are about all that would come.)

The planner was disrespected. Attendees tried to "take over" the Open House and the "work group" wasn't even allowed to present or explain.

Work group members were asked questions and then were not allowed to answer. (Maybe he was referring to the answer whereby it was stated that previous boards had done "nothing" on this issue and this was called out as "totally false.")

The planner couldn't even complete her report because she had been informed that attendees were putting "whole sheets" of red dots on the posters instead of the three they were to be limited to. (I don't know if that is true or not. I myself didn't get a chance to put up any dots as I was busy talking to people who were upset about this whole thing. I would have put only red anyway.)

That people in attendance wanted to take a vote to "shut it down" at the beginning before anything was even presented. (I think the person who suggested the vote stated that it would save a lot of time for everyone.)

People on the northern border now say they want to build houses, whereas before, they didn't want any more houses. (This is not true. I think I know the twisted, factually deficient, quagmire that this came from. No one I know on the northern border has ever indicated they were against houses being built there.)

And on and on and on. (You should hear the audio disc recording of these three bombarding the (rest of) the Board ! It's pretty unbelievable!)

Finally, a vote was taken. Barfknecht, Murphy and Palmquist voted to end the endeavor. Hansen and Ceminsky abstained. (They seem to do that a lot, even on issues they profess to care so much about. I don't get the point.)



Your attendance and input, your letters, your phone calls, your emails, your person-to-person conversations were heard by three Supervisors. In my opinion, the angry "work group" members who were so caustic to their fellow citizens will never "get it."

More to come on other topics from that TB meeting...


Wednesday, August 7, 2019

C/I "WORK GROUP'S" HOPES "DASHED" BY RED DOTS?? IS THE BOARD LISTENING TO CITIZENS?




The Open House on the Commercial/Industrial uses topic was well attended by (you and) your fellow citizens. The gathering was facilitated by the TKDA planner, Merritt Clapp-Smith, with the C/I "work group" sitting at the table at the side of the room.

Metropolitan Council member Wendy Wulff and County Commissioner Mike Slavik were also in attendance, at the request of some citizens.

(When Chair Palmquist had brought up at the previous Board meeting to have Met Council representation in attendance at the Open House for input, this idea was shut down. As Butch Hansen stated (supported by recording), "They won't know anything."

Since Wendy Wulff's previous input on the topic at a different Board meeting was continually being misrepresented, certain citizens felt otherwise and acted.)

Overview of Result: Citizens were overwhelmingly against this type of use in the Township.

Topics brought up by various citizens:

There was a motion passed by a significant majority at the 2019 Annual Meeting to spend no more money on this effort. Why hasn't the Board acted on this? Why do citizens even attend Annual Meetings to give input if this input is effectively ignored?



Why hasn't the Market Study with C/I real estate brokers been updated as recommended in the earlier Task Force report? We need an objective assessment of the current conditions such as how much C/I space is still open in surrounding communities and the resulting consequence of having no sewer and water to offer. This formal study update has been brought up several times and yet it, too, has been ignored. Why do we spend time and effort and money on Task Forces if a "work group" just ignores all that hard and thorough work done with the TKDA planner? (Sherri Buss at the time)

A member of that earlier Task Force and his wife came up and talked with me during the open house. They were dismayed that the recommended actions in the report were just being cast aside. I agreed.

Eventually, Eureka will receive sewer and water services. If we allow the likely "lesser" (read tax revenue) uses such as truck depots, contractors' yards and outdoor storage now, then we are "stuck" when we do get MUSA services, as those "lesser" uses are not going to move out to open the space to "mortar and brick" uses.

Why hasn't the fiscal impact study been done? The earlier Task Force report recommended this study as the next step if "Phase II" were to be entered into. We need hard facts as to what this is going to cost taxpayers and what revenue it can realistically be expected to bring in. What is the net result? We're talking about added services such as streets with assessments perhaps possible only immediately at the C/I use. What about everything in between? Saying that the developers are going to pay for everything is perhaps naive at best.

Citizens were each asked to put 3 "red dots" and 3 "green dots" on the posters placed around the room depicting various C/I uses. Red indicated "no," and green was in favor. They were also asked to place Post-It notes with reasons for their "votes" on the various posters. A former Board Supervisor asked why must people place any green dots if they don't even like the whole concept? The planner responded that that way, if the concept goes through, the Board would have input as to which uses were preferred. This, of course, ignored the idea that citizens did not want this use at all! Someone even proposed saving time and having a show-of-hands vote on the matter.


It was later suggested to me that placing green dots was like going to a restaurant and ordering a medium-rare rib-eye steak. The waiter responds by saying, "Well, we may shifting to serving only fish at this restaurant, starting tonight. If that happens, which type of fish do you want?" Response: "I'm allergic to fish. I don't want any kind of fish. Please bring me my steak."

Waiter: "But which fish should I order for you if our policy changes?"




As it happened, the citizenry responded by placing an overwhelming number of red dots along with their Post-It notes. A few in attendance took pictures of this response to preserve it. Very few green dots appeared. I hope the Board is listening now to the citizens and will not sanction this effort going forward.





Through question-and-answer after the "dot episode" it was (again) revealed that the Met Council has signaled loud and clear that it would not allow sewer and water in our Township until 2040 or after. It was (mis)represented that the Board in the past hadn't done anything to find out if Eureka could get sewer and water. This is not true as was called out at the meeting. In order to get a yes or no answer, the Township would have to file a formal request  for these services. What some members of the "work group" still can't seem to understand is that, not only must there be 1,000 acres designated for more intensive development, but these 1,000 acres (which the "work group" has stated it has "covered" by its suggested zones) must be for many uses, not just C/I, and must include high-density housing. High density meaning three houses to the acre. Rural living at its best!!! 

Not only that, but the Township would have to invest large sums for the engineering and other work required for sewer plans and a complete application before hearing any answer from the Council. This means we could expend hundreds of thousands of dollars only to receive the already signaled answer of, "No, not at this time."



Those in attendance at the first Open House (which answered no one's questions) will recall that Butch Hansen then stated that he had in his possession a letter from the Met Council saying it would give Eureka sewer and water. He later amended that to say he "could get" a letter from the Met Council saying it would allow Eureka sewer and water. This "miracle letter" has yet to materialize.
No real clue as to how the whole process works.

The planner has indicated that her staff would compile the results of the Open House and forward it to the Board and the "work group." The stipulation of including the Board to simultaneously receive the information had to be added/clarified by attendees!

I could go on, but you get the idea. Stay tuned or better yet attend the meeting for what the Board decides on August 12th.