...or at least most of them.
At the February Board meeting, during the public comment section, three people came up front to enter their input. Two of the three were former Board members themselves; the third was a former Planning Commissioner and former Board member. The three agreed with each other. The points made covered the procedures going on of late between the Board and the Commission and the inappropriateness of the most recently modified proposed Agritourism Ordinance language. The language resulted from the changes made by the three male Commissioners, Cleminson, Hansen, and Novacek, despite opinions to the contrary given by Commissioners Barfknecht and Jennings. These details, such as the misplaced inclusion of the Outdoor Assembly Ordinance (OAO) because "it is already on the books," have been covered in this blog recently.
The three people giving public comments gave a reason for speaking up at the Board meeting instead of waiting for the scheduled public hearing on February 17th. That was that all three considered even holding the hearing on what they considered, in part, as nonsensical language (See previous posts) was a waste of Township time and money.
When it came time for the Board agenda item of "Agritourism," Supervisor Ceminsky STILL moved to forward the language in its most recent version to the public hearing. Discussion followed. Chair Kenny Miller called for a roll call vote on the motion: Budenski- nay; Behrendt-nay; Miller-nay; Ceminsky-yea. (Supervisor Madden has been absent due to health problems.)
Ceminsky, in spite of the fact that he had been promoting and advocating for the agritourism ordinance over the past year and a half or so, went on to move that the matter of the agritourism ordinance not be pursued, or words to that effect. ???!!!
Roll Call: All Supervisors voted "yea."
You should remember that this text amendment to the zoning code came up as a proposal by one individual person. When that attempt was poorly done (my opinion), then-Chair Pete Storlie stated that the Board was "going to take this on." That resulted in Storlie's woefully inadequate definition-only proposal. Again, my opinion, although I am certainly not alone in it!
A Task Force was eventually appointed to examine agritourism more fully and come up with ordinance language. Open houses were held. Public comments were submitted. It was also my opinion given during the comment period that this public input was poorly "examined" and in the case of written, submitted questions about the attorney draft, not at all.
Two of the three Commissioners voting to change the agreed-upon Task Force language to include the Outdoor Assembly Ordinance were also Task Force members. Again in my opinion, this was simply a thinly-veiled attempt to significantly raise the threshold for the number of people before an Interim Use Permit would be required. The Task-Force-agreed-upon threshold for number of cars was taken out altogether. The inclusion of the OAO had actually been brought up at Task Force meetings (repeatedly, in fact) and yet was ultimately rejected by that group. But that wasn't the end of it as far as the two Commissioner/Task Force members were concerned, I guess. I am not saying that the Commission couldn't make changes, just that it was interesting to me that this significant but ill-reasoned change was still made even after the two had agreed to the Task Force language that was submitted to the Board as the group's work product.
A public statement made by Novacek about wanting to "keep in place what already exists" and exemptions publicly passed by the three male Commissioners for "seasonal, decorative lighting such as Christmas lights" and even "candles in pumpkins! (Cleminson)" made me wonder whether the Township's interests were what was being looked after, and I said so.
When Clerk Mira Broyles asked, "What about the public hearing?" Chair Miller replied, "Well, you'll have to cancel that."
So at least THIS Board listened.
We'll see what the future brings...
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Showing posts with label Agritourism. Show all posts
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Tuesday, February 17, 2015
Thursday, February 5, 2015
"ALIEN INVASION"--- PART 2
Remember the "loose cannons?" Agritourism Hearing? Picking up where we left off...
Okay, that's bad enough, but, in my opinion, further damage was done. Without a requirement for an IUP from the get-go, there are various thresholds which, when surpassed, require the operator to come in of his own volition (sans complaints) and request an IUP. (This in itself is problematic for many.) The Task Force on Agritourism, six people, had agreed and submitted threshold language referencing, among other things, the number of cars and the number of people.
Eureka spends a significant amount of funds on attorney advice each year. (At the budget meeting last night, the Board settled on $30,000 for the "legal fees" line. This is in keeping more or less with the past.) This expenditure is totally appropriate, in my opinion, as there are many matters where the admitted amateurs in our public offices need assistance. Anyone with any humility acknowledges that. If one is intelligent, one seeks advice from time to time.
Therefore, one might think that when such advice is given that it would be followed. Ask for explanation if need be, explore the topic fully, but recognize the Attorney has the J.D. and you don't! I have witnessed Chair Hansen publicly tell Chad Lemmons (Township Attorney) that he didn't agree with the legal advice that Mr. Lemmons had just offered.
Hello???
Mr. Lemmons has on more than one occasion/meeting said that he recommends an Interim Use Permit (IUP) for all Agritourism. (This is separate from Agricultural Direct Market, selling products.) Lemmons has stated that Agritourism encompasses many different uses and has also caused problems for our Township in the past. True. He pointed out that this would give the Township, the operator, and the neighbors a chance to address each case individually, affix appropriate conditions, and clarify where everything stands. Much better than relying on a complaint basis enforcement for an "Ordinance" that is so open to interpretation as the one currently proposed by (the majority of) the Planning Commission- my opinion. If an operator violates a condition, that can be directly addressed as it was agreed upon in the first place. If a neighbor complains about something that wasn't part of the conditions, unless it violates some other ordinance, the operator is protected. The Township must do a good job on attaching reasonable and related conditions on the first go-round, however, as it is next to impossible to add to them after the fact. (Were there an amendment to the IUP, this would be an opportunity to do so. Otherwise, the operator has to agree to the addition.) Requiring an IUP makes good sense.
HOWEVER, this recommendation has not been directly addressed by the Commission OR the Board as official bodies. Commissioner Barfknecht did, however, ask Chair Hansen at a recent special meeting, "Why aren't we following the attorney's advice and making this an IUP for Agritourism?" Hansen's reply? "Because I don't think it should be." (My emphasis.) Commissioners Novacek and Cleminson remained silent on the topic and therefore acquiescent. Commissioner Jennings was absent as this was a special meeting called for a date she was not able to attend. The majority of three agreed to move the language on.
Okay, that's bad enough, but, in my opinion, further damage was done. Without a requirement for an IUP from the get-go, there are various thresholds which, when surpassed, require the operator to come in of his own volition (sans complaints) and request an IUP. (This in itself is problematic for many.) The Task Force on Agritourism, six people, had agreed and submitted threshold language referencing, among other things, the number of cars and the number of people.
In what I would call an ill-reasoned and inappropriate move, the three male Commissioners decided that they wanted to remove those particular thresholds for both Agritourism AND Direct Marketing and replace them. What did they choose to replace them with? The Outdoor Assembly Ordinance! Reason given? "It's already on the books." So are dog kennels and swimming pools, but that doesn't mean they fit here!!!
The Outdoor Assembly Ordinance (once I got them to stop calling it the Large Gathering Ordinance) is what has been dubbed "The Woodstock Ordinance." No, not that one, the muddy one! The reason is obvious: it is an assembly of people for an outdoor event. Eureka's ordinance closely follows the County Ordinance. When the County reduced the number of people from 500 to 300, Eureka followed suit. If someone proposes to hold such an event and anticipates 300 people at it OR 100 people for eight consecutive hours, that person must apply for a permit.
So, just on the face of it, this move by Hansen, Novacek, and Cleminson greatly increased the number of people allowed from 100 on a daily basis to 300 before a threshold is crossed and a permit is required. The part referring to the lesser number over eight hours could be interpreted by some as allowing quite a few more as people come and go throughout the day for their Agritourism activities. I don't agree with that, but I do have enough imagination (and experience) to envision someone making the argument.
They also took out the threshold for the number of cars as well. The argument was that it wasn't enforceable. Sherri Buss of TKDA and Chad Lemmons had suggested a means by which it would be enforceable: change car trips to cars parked on the property. Easily counted, right? Traffic was supposed to have been a concern that was addressed and the Ordinance now is silent on this.
So for the reason of increasing the numbers alone, I object to the Commissioners (two of whom were on the Task Force) overriding that group's recommendation. You should know that this idea of using the Outdoor Assembly Ordinance was discussed and rejected at Task Force meetings. The group of six agreed to submit the language, including the two thresholds that these three Commissioners want to remove.
It doesn't stop there, though. That Ordinance requires a number of other things fitting for an outdoor assembly but certainly not for Agritourism and Agricultural Direct Marketing. Commissioner Barfknecht pointed this out, but she might as well have been speaking Hungarian!
What are those things? Well, some of them are:
** A license for each "event"
**Security guards
**Physician and nurse and an enclosed facility for treatment
**A fence surrounding the grounds to keep people from entering (without a ticket)
**Ambulances
**A BOND!!!
All so appropriate for corn mazes and selling ag products!!
At a subsequent (regular) meeting when she was able to attend, Commissioner Jennings asked what about the people inside? The Agritourism Ordinance addresses how many square feet of a building can be open to the public, after all. Where do those numbers come in? How is Agritourism an Outdoor Assembly?
More Hungarian.
More telling to me: At one point, Commissioner Novacek stated, "We're just trying to keep in place what already exists." Hmmmm... He also came up with an exemption for the prohibition on outdoor lighting for such uses other than what may be required under building code. He suggested that seasonal, decorative lighting be exempt. Such as Christmas lights. Putting aside the merits of the argument. I was struck by his foresight to even THINK of this...
LAST POINT FOR NOW: The Agritourism Ordinance Public Hearing has been rescheduled for Tuesday, February 17th, at 7:00 p.m.
If the Board is actually going to get its opportunity to review the language at its regular meeting this coming Monday night, how do you, the citizens, get ten days' time in which to review the language? Ten days' published notice of the hearing is required by law, but the language isn't even ready yet.
Tuesday, January 27, 2015
AGRITOURISM ORDINANCE PUBLIC HEARING
Monday, January 26, 2015
NAH NU NAH NU...NAH NU NAH NU....
Did I enter "The Twilight Zone?" Had I gone beyond "The Outer Limits?" Maybe I was seeing an exhibit at "Ripley's Believe It Or Not?" That was the surreal atmosphere that I and a few others experienced at the Special Meeting of the Eureka Planning Commission on January 20th.
First, a little background to set this up:
At its December meeting, the Board had directed the Commission to come up with a procedure and an updated application form for the Water Ordinance. The VRWJPO ceded its authority for the implementation of the Ordinance over to Eureka at the Township's request. (You might remember that some have repeatedly expressed what many would consider sound reasoning as to why this should not happen. See previous blog posts.) The Board had set the date of March 1st to start enforcing the law.
Because of this, Board Chair Kenny Miller emphasized the need for a timely drawing up of these items to Commission Chair Butch Hansen and suggested that perhaps a special meeting in the month of December was in order. Hansen indicated that it would be done at the PC's January meeting. Miller said, "Are you sure you can get this done at one meeting so the Board can review it at its January meeting?" Hansen's reply: "No problem."
HOWEVER, when the January meeting of the Commission was held, Commissioner Hansen chaired a meeting at which the main order of business discussed (until nearly 11:00 p.m.!) was that Perennial Favorite, the proposed Agritourism Ordinance! The VRWJPO item was on the agenda, but Chair Hansen never got that far, nor did he move it up on the agenda or even indicate to the rest of the Commission the Board's urgency on this matter that had been expressed to him earlier. Hence, no procedure, no updated form. So much for "No problem." So the Board's priorities were left unaddressed. Further, the Commission's work on the Agritourism Ordinance, even at the late hour of nearly 11:00 was still not completed.
At the Board's January meeting, upon hearing of the Commission's failure to fulfill its directive, the Board directed the Commission to have a January Special Meeting on the Water Ordinance (an expenditure of Township $$$$ that could/should have been avoided), and further, specified ONLY the Water Ordinance be the subject of this Special Meeting.. The Board was now left with asking for the procedure and the form by its February meeting. This does not allow much time for any additional changes and finalization, as that is only just before the start date of the Township's enforcement of this major piece of legislation.
During the January Board meeting it was also made clear when the subject of having another Special Meeting on Agritourism was brought up, I believe by Supervisor Ceminsky,that the Commission was to engage in any further discussion of the Agritourism draft language at their regular February meeting, which was time enough, and not at a Special Meeting. When that language was deemed complete by the Commission, it was directed to send the final draft language for the Agritourism Ordinance back to the Board for its review before any public hearing should be scheduled.
Supervisor Ceminsky and Commissioner Novacek (who was filling in as liaison for an absent Hansen) were directed to communicate all this to Chair Hansen. They indicated they would.
A Special Meeting of the Commission was scheduled for January 20th. The Agenda? The VRWJPO permit process and the Agritourism Ordinance! Hmmmmmmmmm......... In addition, the meeting was scheduled for a time that Commissioner Jennings was not available. She is very knowledgable about the Vermillion River Watershed and it would have been valuable for the Township had she been able to participate in the discussion.
When it came to the Agritourism issue, the Commission made a number of (what I consider unfortunate and ill-reasoned) changes which I will discuss later. Chair Hansen then went on to say that he wanted to schedule a public hearing on Agritourism!
A member of the audience raised his hand and said that the Board had indicated at their meeting that they wanted to see the final draft language before a public hearing. Supervisor Ceminsky, as Board liaison, was asked about this. His response was along the lines of, "I don't remember that, but this topic has been around a long time and it should get moved forward."
ENTER THE TWILIGHT ZONE!!!!! Supervisor Ceminsky had been tasked with relaying the Board's directive to Chair Hansen (before the special meeting, I might point out) and now as the Board liaison at that meeting he was actually urging the Commission to move ahead with the hearing? That sounded to me like a Supervisor becoming a Board of One!
I then raised my hand and stated that the first audience member was totally correct even if Supervisor Ceminsky seemed to be having a problem remembering! Well, then Commissioner Al Novacek raised his hand and said he had been the Commission liaison at the Board meeting and he did not remember this directive from the Board either!
The only thing to say was, "Well, then you have a bad memory, too!"
The first audience member then said to Ceminsky, "Mark, don't you remember the Board discussion on this?" Ceminsky's response was, "I don't remember a motion on this." (Emphasis mine.) Audience Member No. 1 replied, "Not a motion, but the discussion! Don't you remember the discussion?" I don't recall that Mr. Ceminsky answered that question.
Both Ceminsky and Novacek had agreed that they would inform Hansen, but were now publicly professing that they could not even remember their task or perhaps questioning that they even had a task! Citizens who had also been present at the Board meeting and could speak to the matter were simply ignored. So, rather than having a Commission that follows Board direction,or a liaison that communicates the directive properly, do we have a "loose cannon" or two instead? The public hearing was scheduled for February 3rd. Check to see if it is posted on the website or is properly published as required in the two official newspapers of the Township.
And if you see any three-eyed aliens running around Eureka, ask them if they know who is running the Township! Tell them Rod Serling and I would like to know!


Saturday, January 17, 2015
IS THE AGRITOURISM CLOCK TICKING?
The monthly meeting of the Town Board was held on January 12, 2015. The following is an update on agritourism, IT and the VRWJPO ordinance.
Vermillion River Joint Powers Organization Ordinance (VRWJPO): The Township will start administrating the ordinance on March 1. The attorney stated that the Township needs to adopt the summary ordinance as prepared. The Ordinance was adopted and a summary was to be prepared for distribution. The Planning Commission was tasked with reviewing the Watershed Management Relations summary ordinance for any changes to procedures and creating an application form. The attorney stated the summary needs to be adopted before it can be published by the Town Clerk. A motion was made by Miller and seconded by Ceminsky to adopt the summary. The motion passed.
Supervisor Miller stated to Commissioner Novacek, the Planning Commission liaison, that he was especially concerned regarding the procedures for implementation of the Water Resources Management Ordinance and the application stating the March deadline. He suggested a special meeting be held by the Planning Commission. Supervisor Miller stated that the Board had directed Chair Hansen to present the VRWJPO deadline as a priority for discussion. Both Commissioners Jennings and Novacek agreed that Mr. Hansen did not convey the message. Commissioner Jennings stated that a draft copy of the December Town Board meeting minutes had not been given to the Commission for their January meeting.
Supervisor Ceminsky made a motion to direct the Planning Commission to call a special meeting to address the Watershed Ordinance. Chair Miller seconded the motion with an amendment to discuss the Watershed Ordinance and ONLY the Watershed Ordinance. Supervisor Ceminsky accepted the amendment. The motion passed. The intent was to have a "polished" instrument on the Ordinance and a completed "ready to go" application form to be presented to the Board in February. Supervisor Ceminsky agreed to speak with Chair Hansen regarding the special meeting. Supervisor Ceminsky felt that there should also be a special meeting for agritourism. He wanted to move it forward to get it "off the plate." He made a motion to allow the Planning Commission to hold another special meeting. The Board did not agree with this motion and it died. Chair Miller felt the agritourism discussion should take place at the Planning Commission
February meeting.

FAST FORWARD: Supervisor Ceminsky agreed to talk with Chair Hansen regarding the special meeting for discussion of the VRWJPO ONLY! Chair Hansen, without consulting with the Board, took it upon himself to schedule a special meeting on January 20, 2015 at 7:00 p.m., to include BOTH VRWJPO and agritourism even though the Board directed otherwise. He scheduled the special meeting on a date Commissioner Jennings is NOT available. When the public hearing for Terri Petter was scheduled, it was done around Commissioner Hansen's schedule so he could be present. Where was the disconnect between Ceminsky and Hansen (or was there one)?MAY I ASK WHY? Agritourism is a very complicated issue with the potential of affecting all land owners and future zoning. Who is running this Township? Note: Supervisor Ceminsky, Commissioners Hansen and Novacek's terms end in March. Is there a sense of urgency?

IT UPDATE: Supervisor Behrendt stated the web site is taking more time than expected; therefore, the Clerk and Treasurer emails will be set up to be consistent with the web site.The Board will then discuss individual emails for Commissioners and Board members. He expects the web site to be in production by next month. There will then be training for the Clerk and Deputy Clerk.
The Treasurer requested the purchase of a new lap top computer. Supervisor Behrendt offered to donate
a lap top that would be of a higher quality than the lap top the Treasurer would be authorized to purchase. Declining the offer, Supervisor Miller suggested the Board purchase a new lap top computer. This purchase was approved. Thank you Supervisor Behrendt for once again trying to save the Township money.
AGRITOURISM: Commissioner Novacek reported to the Town Board on the Commission's discussion of agritourism at their January meeting. He stated that there were three significant issues that prevented their discussion from being sent on to the Board. He stated that hopefully the language could be addressed at the February Planning Commission meeting.
At the AUGUST Town Board meeting Supervisor Behrendt expressed concerns regarding allowing agritourism as a use can have different implications in different areas. Chair Hansen attended this meeting. Supervisor Behrendt indicated that the Township has had problems with past issues and to come out and say "it is allowed" might be a form of an ordinance zoning change. Attorney Lemmons stated that he had concerns regarding making agritourism a permitted use because of all the potential uses. If agritourism is allowed, he felt an IUP would be MUCH better. Mr. Lemmons stated the same at the January Planning Commission meeting. WHY DOES THE ATTORNEY'S ADVICE CONTINUE TO BE IGNORED?
Suprvisor Behrendt stated that he would like clarification of what the expectations are regarding the Planning Commission's further discussion of Agritourism at their February meeting. The Planning Commission has been asked to submit their ordinance draft language to the Board for review and discussion of appropriate language PRIOR to setting a Public Hearing.
STAY TUNED!
Supervisor Miller stated to Commissioner Novacek, the Planning Commission liaison, that he was especially concerned regarding the procedures for implementation of the Water Resources Management Ordinance and the application stating the March deadline. He suggested a special meeting be held by the Planning Commission. Supervisor Miller stated that the Board had directed Chair Hansen to present the VRWJPO deadline as a priority for discussion. Both Commissioners Jennings and Novacek agreed that Mr. Hansen did not convey the message. Commissioner Jennings stated that a draft copy of the December Town Board meeting minutes had not been given to the Commission for their January meeting.
Supervisor Ceminsky made a motion to direct the Planning Commission to call a special meeting to address the Watershed Ordinance. Chair Miller seconded the motion with an amendment to discuss the Watershed Ordinance and ONLY the Watershed Ordinance. Supervisor Ceminsky accepted the amendment. The motion passed. The intent was to have a "polished" instrument on the Ordinance and a completed "ready to go" application form to be presented to the Board in February. Supervisor Ceminsky agreed to speak with Chair Hansen regarding the special meeting. Supervisor Ceminsky felt that there should also be a special meeting for agritourism. He wanted to move it forward to get it "off the plate." He made a motion to allow the Planning Commission to hold another special meeting. The Board did not agree with this motion and it died. Chair Miller felt the agritourism discussion should take place at the Planning Commission
February meeting.


IT UPDATE: Supervisor Behrendt stated the web site is taking more time than expected; therefore, the Clerk and Treasurer emails will be set up to be consistent with the web site.The Board will then discuss individual emails for Commissioners and Board members. He expects the web site to be in production by next month. There will then be training for the Clerk and Deputy Clerk.
The Treasurer requested the purchase of a new lap top computer. Supervisor Behrendt offered to donate
a lap top that would be of a higher quality than the lap top the Treasurer would be authorized to purchase. Declining the offer, Supervisor Miller suggested the Board purchase a new lap top computer. This purchase was approved. Thank you Supervisor Behrendt for once again trying to save the Township money.
AGRITOURISM: Commissioner Novacek reported to the Town Board on the Commission's discussion of agritourism at their January meeting. He stated that there were three significant issues that prevented their discussion from being sent on to the Board. He stated that hopefully the language could be addressed at the February Planning Commission meeting.
At the AUGUST Town Board meeting Supervisor Behrendt expressed concerns regarding allowing agritourism as a use can have different implications in different areas. Chair Hansen attended this meeting. Supervisor Behrendt indicated that the Township has had problems with past issues and to come out and say "it is allowed" might be a form of an ordinance zoning change. Attorney Lemmons stated that he had concerns regarding making agritourism a permitted use because of all the potential uses. If agritourism is allowed, he felt an IUP would be MUCH better. Mr. Lemmons stated the same at the January Planning Commission meeting. WHY DOES THE ATTORNEY'S ADVICE CONTINUE TO BE IGNORED?
Suprvisor Behrendt stated that he would like clarification of what the expectations are regarding the Planning Commission's further discussion of Agritourism at their February meeting. The Planning Commission has been asked to submit their ordinance draft language to the Board for review and discussion of appropriate language PRIOR to setting a Public Hearing.
STAY TUNED!
Friday, January 9, 2015
IS THERE WISDOM IN SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE AND THEN IGNORING IT?
As I followed the discussion, it became quite apparent that the attorney's recommendation to utilize Interim Use Permits (IUP) rather than permitted uses was being ignored. A few members of the Commission were considering the concept of allowing permitted uses. This concept came from the draft report submitted by the Task Force for Attorney review. Once any of the thresholds given were crossed, an IUP would be required. Commissioner Novacek stated he had done some research and suggested that the Township's "large gathering ordinance" (Outdoor Assembly Ordinance) would be a very good way of handling most of his concerns due to his research. He suggested many line items for discussion could be eliminated. In response to his suggestion,Commissioner Barfknecht asked Commissioner Novacek what research he had done and what/who were his sources. He stated he wanted to keep the sources confidential! Commissioner Jennings made a motion to review the highlighted points and allow the attorney to respond to their questions. Commissioner Barfknecht seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Addressing the language of preventing/minimizing when the goal is to take into consideration the effect on neighboring properties: A motion was made by Commissioner Novacek and seconded by Chair Hansen to eliminate the word prevent from the language. It seemed to me that Novacek's concern was that leaving in the language "prevent" would be too restrictive and have a negative effect. Attorney Lemmons reminded the Commission that one of the purposes of passing this ordinance is to take into account the effect on neighboring properties and the obligation is not to prevent, but to use as a guideline. An audience member made the comment that just allowing "minimize", in certain circumstances, might not be restrictive enough. Commissioners Barfknechet, Cleminson and Jennings voted nay and the motion failed. The language "prevent and minimize" were included in the language.
Recommendation by the Township Attorney: Allowing agritourism as a Conditional Use or Interim Use (attorney Lemmon's preference is Interim Use for valid reasons he previously offered) rather than a permitted use, allows the Town Board and the Planning Commission to approve each use with conditions. He stated that if it is a permitted use, there is no control whatsoever. Chair Hansen asked that if everything is under an IUP what is the purpose of thresholds. Attorney Lemmons stated that the thresholds will help to craft the IUP. He also stated that whether the use is an IUP or CUP (he stated that he recommended an IUP) there still must be standards. He agreed that thresholds were different than standards.
Continued discussion of allowing permitted uses: The attorney stated that if the Township wants to keep certain uses under agritourism as permitted uses, the Commission will have to define and list under Chapter 4 for clarification, what agritourism uses will be allowed as permitted uses as well as indicating exclusions. Allowed uses must be on the permitted user's property. It was agreed that the primary use of any property shall be to conduct agricultural operations. Note: At no time during the meeting did the Commission address the attorney's recommendation to list uses.
Square Footage allowed for non-agricultural retail floor space: Keep this in mind. This space can be used for shirts, sunglasses, hats, coats, boots, etc. only to name a few. Are the stated uses what we want to see in the agricultural community? (my comment). The Task Force, over many meetings of continued discussion, arrived at an allowed square footage of 100 square feet. Chair Hansen did not believe that 100 square feet is enough. He would like to see 200 square feet. At what point does Commissioner Hansen (who was on the Task Force with Commissioner Cleminson) recognize the recommendation of square footage by the Task Force? At the DECEMBER meeting Commissioner Novacek stated that he thought 10,000 square feet would be adequate. Commissioners Hansen, Jennings and Cleminson stated "that is a
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The 100 square feet would not only allow floor space but wall space also.
A motion was made by Commissioner Novacek and seconded to raise the direct market NON- agricultural retail floor space to 200 square feet. This square footage is also arbitrary as reasons to ignore the Task Force recommendation of 100 Square feet were not offered. Commissioners Jennings and Barfknecht voted no. Commissioners Cleminson, Hansen and Novacek voted yes.
Adverse Effect: Commissioner Novacek questioned having the language "adverse effect" included in the ordinance language. The attorney explained that "adverse effect" is a "term of art" used in ordinance language. He went on to explain the benefits to the Township and how a Court might look at the language. A motion was made to keep the language based on the attorney's advice and explanation. Commissioners Jennings, Cleminson, Barfknecht and Hansen voted yes and Commissioner Novacek voted no. Novacek once again ignored the attorney's advice.
Discussion of the enforcement of the number of cars and visits of people daily, on a weekly basis: The attorney stated that the Township is here to create standards by which the Town is to operate. There should be a reason numbers are determined and used as a standard. The question is what numbers
make sense and how will the numbers be enforced. When talking about permitted uses, the Township needs to have some kind of standards or the situation may be nebulous. Attorney Lemmons stated the language that was proposed was quite standard. He suggested that he might add no more than 30 cars per day parked on the property if served by a dirt road and 75 cars parked on a property if served by a paved road. He felt that this would be enforceable.
I suggest the Town Board and Planning Commission members research thoroughly information regarding Interim Use Permits before proposing an agritourism ordinance for Eureka Township that is zoned agricultural without commercial zoning. I agree that the recommendation of the attorney to not allow permitted agritourism uses and allow Interim Uses only is a sound recommendation protecting the rights of all citizens. (Information taken from an audio recording and a CD copy can be obtained via the Township Clerk).
I googled information regarding Interim Use Permits and found an article titled Interim Use Permits Can Be A Great Tool For Towns written by a Minnesota Association Township Attorney
1) A Conditional Use Permit (CUP)remains in effect so long as the owner is meeting the conditions of the permit and it remains a conforming use. Any municipality that puts an expiration date on a CUP will lose a legal challenge to that provision.
2) Towns and cities have the authority to allow interim uses under Minnesota Statute 462.3597 (see below). By not using interim use permits, he believes that towns are missing out on a great tool in land use planning and management.
3) He believes an interim use permit is useful where a proposed use fits within the current zoning plan but will likely not fit with the expected growth of a town. A town can issue an interim use permit with conditions that match those of a CUP. In short, interim use permits are ideal for situations where a town wants to issue a CUP with a time limit.
4) A conservative application would be to designate interim uses as activities that are NOT neighbor-friendly, such as gravel mining, in areas that have any likelihood of growth.
5) The first step for towns wanting to issue interim use permits is to adopt an ordinance designating what type of uses are interim. He believes coordinating an additional land use ordinance into an existing system can be complex. It is even more complex when it is something that does not have CLEARLY DEFINED LIMITS. For this reason he recommends enlisting your town attorney when drafting an interim use ordinance that will work with your existing zoning scheme.
The Township is a member of the Minnesota Association of Townships and has access to MAT information and resources on their web site or MAT attorney contact.
YES, I BELIEVE THERE IS WISDOM IN SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE AND NOT
IGNORING IT BECAUSE OF PERSONAL AGENDAS OR OTHER REASONS!
Remember, this only became an issue because one property owner in the community requested a text amendment to allow her/him to carry on an activity he/she is already engaged in. The Township must consider future growth in relationship to residential zoning.
For your reference, the following is what is stated in the statute.
462.3597
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462.3597 INTERIM USES.
Subdivision 1. Definition. An "interim use" is a temporary use of property until a particular date, until the occurrence of a particular event, or until zoning regulations no longer permit it.
Subd. 2. Authority. Zoning regulations may permit the governing body to allow interim uses. The regulations may set conditions on interim uses. The governing body may grant permission for an interim use of property if:
(1) the use conforms to the zoning regulations;
(2) the date or event that will terminate the use can be identified with certainty;
(3) permission of the use will not impose additional costs on the public if it is necessary for the public to take the property in the future; and
(4) the user agrees to any conditions that the governing body deems appropriate for permission of the use.
Any interim use may be terminated by a change in zoning regulations.
Subd. 3. Public hearings. Public hearings on the granting of interim use permits shall be held in the manner provided in section 462.357, subdivision 3.
History: 1989 c 200 s 2
Friday, January 2, 2015
YOU HAD TO BE THERE...
...at the December Planning Commission Meeting. What was said was hard for me to believe, but there it was!
You remember Agritourism, right? You remember that it started as an individual's proposed text amendment and was "taken over" by the Board under Pete Storlie's chairmanship. Two separate public hearings were held. Many concerns were expressed. The proposed text amendments offered little in language and perhaps even less in development of concept, in my opinion. Ultimately, a task force was appointed by the Board to look into it further.
The task force, at any rate, met for months and hours and hours and hours. You might remember that there were also two open houses for citizens to ask questions and offer input by means of questionnaires and verbal comment. These open houses were not a given; people had to press for the opportunity for those of you who came. It makes sense to me that community input should be sought and that people should be given multiple ways to give their feedback.
This feedback should be considered carefully and thoroughly by the Commission and the Board. After all, they represent all of you! The Township Attorney was also asked to take the task force language and come up with the ordinance. So we have spent much time, effort and funds on this topic.
Now, to the December Commission meeting. When the four Commissioners (Commissioner Barfknecht was absent) were starting to discuss the proposed ordinance language, Commissioner Novacek objected to it. He used the example of the provision for up to 100 sq. ft. of retail space to be allowed for sale of non-ag items before an Interim Use Permit (IUP) would be required. (I remind you that the Attorney actually advised that all agritourism have an IUP so that the Township could better control this use through conditions specific to each instance. His language did not reflect this as that is not what the Board asked him to do.)
Novacek stated that he thought that 10,000 sq. ft. would be better!!! The other three Commissioners, which included two task force members, Hansen and Cleminson, responded, "That's a Wal-Mart!" Novacek indicated that he didn't see their point. Commissioner Jennings said, "We are zoned ag!" Novacek's response? "That's arbitrary."
I seem to remember a township-wide vote back in the early '80s whereby the citizenry determined that it wanted to keep the one house per quarter-quarter zoning that would allow agriculture. That's not arbitrary.
Zoning started, if I remember training sessions correctly, back in the 1920s. Before that pollution-spewing factories could be right next to residences. It was better for people's quality of life if these uses were separated. That's what government's duty to protect the health, safety, and welfare of its citizens is about.
Novacek went on to say that he thought everyone should be "able to live the way he wants to." I don't think he has followed this to its logical conclusion. If Person A wants to live in Manner X, and say Manner X is owning a big box store alongside his house, what about Person B's ability to live as he wants to if Manner X is objectionable to him and he lives right next to Person A? What if Novacek is Person B? What might he say then? You see where it goes. Our community has self-determined that it is ag. That means certain uses do not fit in the zone, although we do allow certain non-ag uses such as churches and schools under Conditional Use Permits. But that was also done through public input and ordinance adoption.
At any rate, Commissioner Novacek said he was going to do his "own research" on the topics to be regulated by the Agritourism Ordinance and bring it to the January meeting coming up this Monday, the 5th. I sincerely hope that the other Commissioners remember all that has gone before and all the discussion it took for the task force to get to its conclusion. Even the task force, just the six of them, had a hard time agreeing. I don't think it should all come down to a Committee of One, do you?
You remember Agritourism, right? You remember that it started as an individual's proposed text amendment and was "taken over" by the Board under Pete Storlie's chairmanship. Two separate public hearings were held. Many concerns were expressed. The proposed text amendments offered little in language and perhaps even less in development of concept, in my opinion. Ultimately, a task force was appointed by the Board to look into it further.The task force, at any rate, met for months and hours and hours and hours. You might remember that there were also two open houses for citizens to ask questions and offer input by means of questionnaires and verbal comment. These open houses were not a given; people had to press for the opportunity for those of you who came. It makes sense to me that community input should be sought and that people should be given multiple ways to give their feedback.
This feedback should be considered carefully and thoroughly by the Commission and the Board. After all, they represent all of you! The Township Attorney was also asked to take the task force language and come up with the ordinance. So we have spent much time, effort and funds on this topic.
Now, to the December Commission meeting. When the four Commissioners (Commissioner Barfknecht was absent) were starting to discuss the proposed ordinance language, Commissioner Novacek objected to it. He used the example of the provision for up to 100 sq. ft. of retail space to be allowed for sale of non-ag items before an Interim Use Permit (IUP) would be required. (I remind you that the Attorney actually advised that all agritourism have an IUP so that the Township could better control this use through conditions specific to each instance. His language did not reflect this as that is not what the Board asked him to do.)Novacek stated that he thought that 10,000 sq. ft. would be better!!! The other three Commissioners, which included two task force members, Hansen and Cleminson, responded, "That's a Wal-Mart!" Novacek indicated that he didn't see their point. Commissioner Jennings said, "We are zoned ag!" Novacek's response? "That's arbitrary."
I seem to remember a township-wide vote back in the early '80s whereby the citizenry determined that it wanted to keep the one house per quarter-quarter zoning that would allow agriculture. That's not arbitrary.
Zoning started, if I remember training sessions correctly, back in the 1920s. Before that pollution-spewing factories could be right next to residences. It was better for people's quality of life if these uses were separated. That's what government's duty to protect the health, safety, and welfare of its citizens is about.
Novacek went on to say that he thought everyone should be "able to live the way he wants to." I don't think he has followed this to its logical conclusion. If Person A wants to live in Manner X, and say Manner X is owning a big box store alongside his house, what about Person B's ability to live as he wants to if Manner X is objectionable to him and he lives right next to Person A? What if Novacek is Person B? What might he say then? You see where it goes. Our community has self-determined that it is ag. That means certain uses do not fit in the zone, although we do allow certain non-ag uses such as churches and schools under Conditional Use Permits. But that was also done through public input and ordinance adoption.
At any rate, Commissioner Novacek said he was going to do his "own research" on the topics to be regulated by the Agritourism Ordinance and bring it to the January meeting coming up this Monday, the 5th. I sincerely hope that the other Commissioners remember all that has gone before and all the discussion it took for the task force to get to its conclusion. Even the task force, just the six of them, had a hard time agreeing. I don't think it should all come down to a Committee of One, do you?
Friday, November 14, 2014
BITS AND PIECES...
During a Town Board agenda item requested by Yours Truly under the Citizen Input Policy, I once again asked that the minutes and other materials that the Agritourism Task Force was privy to be posted on the Township website. I stated that citizens should at least have the opportunity to inform themselves fully on this topic before the public hearing that will be held. I referenced the Transfer Task Force, chaired by Jeff Otto, of which I was part. All those minutes were posted in a timely manner. The same should be done with the Agritourism minutes. Citizens could then follow the comments made by the invited guests to the meetings, as well as understand TKDA Senior Planner Sherri Buss' input at the three meetings she attended to assist the committee The Board did not respond to me on this issue at the meeting. The Task Force had agreed with my requests at the time, but there were website issues, so perhaps it will be done by the IT Supervisor soon anyway. Check under "Task Forces" or "Minutes" on the website.
While we are on the subject of the agritourism public hearing, an informative word or two generally:
Any change in land use is a change in zoning.
Any change in zoning requires a public hearing. This is why there will be a public hearing on agritourism before any Ordinance can be enacted.
Public hearings must be published with ten days' notice in the Township's official newspaper. This is different from a "posting," which need go only on the official posting place, in our case the bulletin board on the south wall of Town Hall. A Special Meeting of the Board requires a posting with 3 days' notice; it does not require publishing.
The Planning Commission will be reviewing the comment cards from the Open House and any other comments submitted in time for their December 1st meeting. Since the week before this meeting is Thanksgiving week, I would suggest that any comments you may wish to submit be in to the Clerk by that Tuesday. Visit the website under "Task Forces" for the ordinance draft language and minority reports.
A second item that was brought up under my "Communication Follow-through" agenda item was the Watershed Ordinance. You may recall that I had attempted to speak to the Board on this subject before but was cut off by the Board Chair. This time I reminded him that there is no time limit for agenda items under the Policy and was able to complete my thought. That thought being, "Where is the report that the Board requested of the Planning Commission on this subject?" This request was made by Chair Miller at some length at the Roundtable meeting wayyyy back in June. No report has been forthcoming. Each Commissioner had been invited to submit pros and cons and to "educate" the Board on this matter. This was said by Miller in response to a Commissioner's noting that she would just be outvoted. The report was to give each member a chance to express his/her views. What happened? Why, a Commission vote was taken! 3-2 in favor of recommending that the Board adopt the ordinance. Bare bones. That's it. No requested input submitted.
The Board did not respond to me on this specific matter either and the Planning Commission was not further directed to submit the information requested. Instead, Supervisor Ceminsky was given the task of following up on the mechanics of enforcing the ordinance once adopted.
Empty words? Window dressing? Best interests of the community? Why make the request if one isn't even going to expect it to be fulfilled? Got me.
A third item under "Communication Follow-through" was The Moratorium That Wasn't. A small group of people, including one Eureka resident, has submitted an application to the state to be licensed to have a medical marijuana manufacturing facility in the Township. This was discussed at a regular Planning Commission meeting and there was even a Special Meeting of the Commission to further discuss it. The Attorney had brought up the possibility of a moratorium on the use, which would allow the Township to study this before going down the road of having such a facility. Under a moratorium, no such facility could be built until the Township had explored all its options. The Township could take up to a year to conduct its study. The Attorney had recommended a moratorium and the Planning Commission had agreed as a body to recommend it as well.
This is the very type of topic that moratoriums (a) are made for, I suggested to the Board. However, I pointed out that during the ensuing Board meeting, the moratorium idea was brought up and discussed, but it was never made clear by the Commission liaison and Chair, Butch Hansen, that the Commission was making such a recommendation. This recommendation was included in the Commission meeting summary prepared, I believe, by the Clerk, but no mention of it was made by the Board either. The end result was a 3-2 decision (sounding familiar?), with only Supervisors Behrendt and Miller supporting the idea of a moratorium.
ADDED NOTE: The State accepted twelve such applications, along with a non-refundable $20,000 fee from each. TWO sets of applicants will be licensed. Notice will be coming soon as to whom was selected.
Last topic on my agenda item was the state statute that regulates "Notice of Meetings." Under that statute anyone who wishes to be notified via email (or USPS) of any Special Meetings of the Board or Commission can so request. The Township must provide this notification. The rationale behind this as I would understand it is that only the regular meeting calendar is set at the Reorganizational Meeting following an election. Special Meetings come up as the situation warrants it and require just the notice as mentioned above: easy to miss. SO, if you are a person who likes to stay abreast with what is going on in your community, contact Clerk Mira Broyles to be placed on this notification list. Even if you were on such a list before, you should re-request it as Chair Miller instructed the Clerk to build a new list, The Township can request such renewals under this statute, given appropriate notice as stated therein.
Like the idea of bringing something to the Board's attention for discussion** outside of a three-minute limited Public Comment? Check out the Citizen Input Policy.
**I guess we are still working on this aspect!
While we are on the subject of the agritourism public hearing, an informative word or two generally:
Any change in land use is a change in zoning.
Any change in zoning requires a public hearing. This is why there will be a public hearing on agritourism before any Ordinance can be enacted.
Public hearings must be published with ten days' notice in the Township's official newspaper. This is different from a "posting," which need go only on the official posting place, in our case the bulletin board on the south wall of Town Hall. A Special Meeting of the Board requires a posting with 3 days' notice; it does not require publishing.
The Planning Commission will be reviewing the comment cards from the Open House and any other comments submitted in time for their December 1st meeting. Since the week before this meeting is Thanksgiving week, I would suggest that any comments you may wish to submit be in to the Clerk by that Tuesday. Visit the website under "Task Forces" for the ordinance draft language and minority reports.
A second item that was brought up under my "Communication Follow-through" agenda item was the Watershed Ordinance. You may recall that I had attempted to speak to the Board on this subject before but was cut off by the Board Chair. This time I reminded him that there is no time limit for agenda items under the Policy and was able to complete my thought. That thought being, "Where is the report that the Board requested of the Planning Commission on this subject?" This request was made by Chair Miller at some length at the Roundtable meeting wayyyy back in June. No report has been forthcoming. Each Commissioner had been invited to submit pros and cons and to "educate" the Board on this matter. This was said by Miller in response to a Commissioner's noting that she would just be outvoted. The report was to give each member a chance to express his/her views. What happened? Why, a Commission vote was taken! 3-2 in favor of recommending that the Board adopt the ordinance. Bare bones. That's it. No requested input submitted.
The Board did not respond to me on this specific matter either and the Planning Commission was not further directed to submit the information requested. Instead, Supervisor Ceminsky was given the task of following up on the mechanics of enforcing the ordinance once adopted.
Empty words? Window dressing? Best interests of the community? Why make the request if one isn't even going to expect it to be fulfilled? Got me.
This is the very type of topic that moratoriums (a) are made for, I suggested to the Board. However, I pointed out that during the ensuing Board meeting, the moratorium idea was brought up and discussed, but it was never made clear by the Commission liaison and Chair, Butch Hansen, that the Commission was making such a recommendation. This recommendation was included in the Commission meeting summary prepared, I believe, by the Clerk, but no mention of it was made by the Board either. The end result was a 3-2 decision (sounding familiar?), with only Supervisors Behrendt and Miller supporting the idea of a moratorium.
ADDED NOTE: The State accepted twelve such applications, along with a non-refundable $20,000 fee from each. TWO sets of applicants will be licensed. Notice will be coming soon as to whom was selected.
Last topic on my agenda item was the state statute that regulates "Notice of Meetings." Under that statute anyone who wishes to be notified via email (or USPS) of any Special Meetings of the Board or Commission can so request. The Township must provide this notification. The rationale behind this as I would understand it is that only the regular meeting calendar is set at the Reorganizational Meeting following an election. Special Meetings come up as the situation warrants it and require just the notice as mentioned above: easy to miss. SO, if you are a person who likes to stay abreast with what is going on in your community, contact Clerk Mira Broyles to be placed on this notification list. Even if you were on such a list before, you should re-request it as Chair Miller instructed the Clerk to build a new list, The Township can request such renewals under this statute, given appropriate notice as stated therein.
Like the idea of bringing something to the Board's attention for discussion** outside of a three-minute limited Public Comment? Check out the Citizen Input Policy.
**I guess we are still working on this aspect!
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